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Richard Dennis: The Prince of the Pit, the Turtles and the 1988 Losses
The Chicago trend follower who taught the Turtles: his dated career, the losses that ended it in 1988 and what his fortune really is on the record.
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Richard Dennis is the Chicago commodity trader known as the "Prince of the Pit", who made his fortune as a trend follower and, in the early 1980s, trained the Turtles to prove that trading can be taught. In October 1988 Time estimated his fortune at $200 million, after his two public funds had lost about $50 million in a year, and reported that he was leaving trading for politics. His current status and net worth are not published by any source we could verify.
This page sticks to what is dated and sourced: his rise, the Turtle experiment, the losses of 1987 and 1988, and what traders can still use from his approach. The Turtle rules themselves are on our Turtle Traders page.
Richard Dennis, key dates
Born in Chicago, according to MarketsWiki. MarketsWiki
C&D Commodities places classified ads for Turtle trainees in late fall 1983, and again in 1984, for two trading classes. TurtleTrader
Decides to leave trading for politics after his funds' losses. Time
Time estimates his fortune at $200 million and his funds' losses at about $50 million. Time
Market Wizards publishes its chapter "Richard Dennis: A Legend Retires". Internet Archive catalog
Closes the fund management operations he had restarted in the mid-1990s, after losses in the summer, according to MarketsWiki. MarketsWiki
Inducted into the FIA Futures Hall of Fame. FIA
From runner to Prince of the Pit
MarketsWiki gives his birth as January 1949 in Chicago (Time called him 39 in October 1988) and says he earned a bachelor’s degree in philosophy from DePaul University, briefly accepted a scholarship for graduate study in philosophy at Tulane University, then returned to Chicago to trade full time. Dennis began his career as a runner at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange at 17 and, a few years later, traded for his own account from the floor of the Chicago Board of Trade building. Much of his early success came from following "the Great Russian Grain Robbery", when the U.S. government secretly agreed to sell grain to the Soviet Union and prices rose over an extended period. He reportedly made his first million by the age of 25. His approach was trend following: buy rising markets, sell falling ones short, and stay with the trend.
The Turtle experiment
Dennis believed that trading could be broken down into rules and learned, not inborn. To test it, he and his partner William Eckhardt placed a newspaper ad in the early 1980s, recruited about 20 people, about half with no business background, and trained them in two groups for two weeks. The recruits traded his money for a share of the profits; one of them, Jim DiMaria, told WBEZ he got an $18,000 draw, a payment advanced against future earnings. The name came from a turtle farm Dennis had visited in Singapore: he said he could grow traders as fast as turtles were raised there. Several recruits were dropped early; the FIA notes that many of the traders went on to successful careers in the industry.
1987 and 1988: the losses
According to Time, Dennis took a bath in financial futures after the October 1987 crash and in grain during the 1988 summer drought, and his two public commodity funds lost an estimated $50 million in a year, nearly 50% of their value. In September 1988 he decided to stop and turn to politics, to support causes reflecting what he called "an idiosyncratic mix of economic free markets and liberal social policies". The 1989 book Market Wizards titled its chapter on him "Richard Dennis: A Legend Retires".
A loss of nearly half is harder to repair than it sounds, because the gain needed to recover is measured from the smaller balance.
The gain needed to recover from a loss
After 1988: the return to fund management
The retirement did not last. MarketsWiki reports that Dennis returned to fund management in the mid-1990s and closed those operations after losses in the summer of 2000. We did not find the original press reports of that period, so we give no figures for it.
Net worth: what is documented
| Figure | Date | Source | Status |
|---|---|---|---|
| First million by age 25 | Not dated | WBEZ (reported) | Reported, not documented |
| Fortune estimated at $200 million | October 1988 | Time | Estimate; Dennis was 39 |
| Losses of the two public funds: about $50 million | 1987 to 1988 | Time | Estimate |
| Current net worth | None | None found | Not published |
Precise starting sums and later fortunes that circulate online had no source we could find, so they are not repeated here. The FIA lists him as president of the Dennis Trading Group and vice-president of C&D Commodities, and he was inducted into the FIA Futures Hall of Fame in 2009.
How Dennis traded, and what to keep
Dennis built on the trend following ideas that Richard Donchian pioneered, but he did not use moving averages for entries and exits and relied much more on money management than Donchian. For a trader today, three points survive: follow the trend rather than predict it, define the rules before the trade, and size positions so that a bad year, like his 1988, is survivable. A written trading plan is where those rules go. Other careers are compared on our list of the most successful stock traders and in the famous traders section.
Frequently asked questions
How did Richard Dennis trade?
As a trend follower in futures: he bought rising markets, sold short falling ones and stayed with the trend. Compared with Richard Donchian, he relied less on moving averages and more on money management. The rules he taught the Turtles are on our Turtle Traders page.
What happened to Richard Dennis?
After his two public funds lost an estimated $50 million in 1987 and 1988, he decided in September 1988 to leave trading for politics, according to Time, which estimated his fortune at $200 million. He was inducted into the FIA Futures Hall of Fame in 2009.
Is Richard Dennis still alive?
We found no reliable, dated source on his current status, so we do not state it either way.
What is Richard Dennis's net worth?
No current figure is published. The last documented estimate is Time's $200 million, in October 1988.
What books has Richard Dennis written?
We found no book written by Dennis in the sources we checked. He is the subject of a chapter in Market Wizards (1989), and the Turtle experiment is told in The Complete TurtleTrader.
Sources
- Time, The Crash, One Year Later: It Was the Worst of Times (October 17, 1988)
- FIA Futures Hall of Fame, Richard J. Dennis
- MarketsWiki, Richard J. Dennis
- WBEZ, Checking in with the Turtle Traders 30 years later
- Market Wizards (1989), Internet Archive catalog record
- TurtleTrader, Richard Donchian and Richard Dennis
- TurtleTrader, The TurtleTrader story
