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Ed Seykota: The Market Wizard's Risk Rules and Trend System

What the systematic trend follower from Market Wizards actually published on his own site: the coin toss behind his risk rules, the uncle point and a crossover system you can reproduce.

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On this page
  1. Market Wizards and the trend following idea
  2. Seykota's risk management essay
  3. Portfolio heat and the uncle point
  4. A worked example: Seykota's exponential crossover system
  5. Books, the Trading Tribe and what is not known
  6. Frequently asked questions

Ed Seykota is the systematic trend follower interviewed in Jack Schwager's 1989 book Market Wizards, in a chapter titled "Ed Seykota: Everybody Gets What They Want". Since 2003 he has published his own answers to readers on seykota.com, together with the Trading Tribe, a group process about traders' feelings, and a public Trading Systems Project with tested rules.

His own pages are the best primary source on how he thinks about trading, so this page works from them: his risk management essay, his worked example of an exponential moving average crossover system, and the books and services his site lists. Figures that circulate online about his returns and private life had no source we could check, so they are left out.

Ed Seykota, dated sources

  1. Market Wizards is published with the chapter "Ed Seykota: Everybody Gets What They Want". Internet Archive catalog

  2. Starts answering readers' questions on seykota.com (FAQ), and dates his risk management essay. seykota.com

  3. Readers confirm his 150/15 crossover test to the penny. seykota.com, TSP

  4. Last update of the crossover system page. seykota.com, TSP index

  5. Updates the Core Position Sizing study of the Trading Systems Project. seykota.com, TSP index

  6. Date shown on the Trading Tribe store page. seykota.com store

Each event links to the source it was checked against.

Market Wizards and the trend following idea

The book's table of contents, in the Internet Archive catalog, lists his chapter alongside those on Richard Dennis, Paul Tudor Jones and Larry Hite. His resources page on seykota.com lists an entry on Richard Donchian, the pioneer of trend following rules. The common thread is the one his crossover tutorial makes explicit: a mechanical rule decides the entry, the exit and the size, so that the trader only has to follow it. For the general method, see our guide to trend trading.

Seykota's risk management essay

Seykota's essay "Risk Management" on seykota.com, marked 2003 and 2015, starts from a coin that pays 2 to 1 with a 50% chance of heads. Betting a fixed fraction of equity on each toss, he shows that the result depends on the fraction: bet too little and you make little, bet too much and you go broke. He calls these the Timid Trader Rule and the Bold Trader Rule.

Fixed fraction betEquity after 10 tosses (5 heads, 5 tails)
0%$1,000.00
10%$1,469.33
25%$1,802.03
40%$1,469.33
50%$1,000.00
75%$95.37

Seykota's coin: equity after ten tosses by fraction bet

Equity after ten tossesStarting equityBest fractionTimid: bet toolittle, make littleBold: bet toomuch, go broke0%25%50%75%100%Fraction of equity bet on each toss
Schematic, not market data. Computed from the coin of Seykota's risk essay: 2 to 1 payoff, five heads and five tails.Same coin, same ten tosses: only the size of the bet changes the result.

The figures are from his Figure 3, starting with $1,000. The curve draws his formula for every fraction, not only the six rows: equity grows for any bet between 0% and 50%, fastest at 25%, and a 50% bet only gets back to the start after ten tosses even though the coin is in the bettor's favor. Past 50%, the same favorable coin destroys the account. Our check of the 25% row: each head and tail pair multiplies equity by 1.5 times 0.75, or 1.125, and five pairs give 1.125 to the fifth power, or $1,802.03 on $1,000.

Portfolio heat and the uncle point

Two terms from the same essay matter more than the formula. Portfolio heat is the total risk of all open positions taken together. The uncle point is "the amount of draw down that provokes a loss of confidence in either the investors or the fund management"; past it, someone gives up and the fund dies. He regrets that the uncle point gets little mention when a fund is sold, because a mismatch between investors and managers can make one side give up just when the other most needs support.

A worked example: Seykota's exponential crossover system

In his Trading Systems Project, Seykota publishes a simple system and invites readers to reproduce it "to the penny". The system trades one instrument, an S&P 500 continuous futures contract, from the long side only. It buys when a fast exponential average crosses above a slow one and sells when it crosses back below, with each order filled halfway between the next day's open and its high for a buy, or its low for a sale, as an allowance for slippage.

How Seykota's crossover system sizes a position

Equity×HeatRisk budgetATR×MultiplierRisk per unitRisk budget÷Risk per unitUnitsOrder size: units rounded to whole contracts
The sizing steps of his crossover system, in the order his page computes them; his numbers are in the text.

Position size comes from volatility. In his example, on August 31, 1982, equity is $1,000,000 and the heat is 10%, so the risk budget is $100,000. The average true range is 3.115 and the multiplier 5, so the risk per unit is 15.575. The size is 100,000 divided by 15.575, or 6,420.5 units, rounded to the nearest 250 units, one S&P 500 contract on his page: 6,500. That first trade, bought on September 1, 1982 at 119.525 and sold on December 20, 1983 at 159.60, made $260,487.50. The run with a slow lag of 150 and a fast lag of 15 ends with about 3.3 times the stake, and the 325 and 85 run with about 13.6 times; his page does not give the end date of the test in the text we read.

Books, the Trading Tribe and what is not known

The site lists The Trading Tribe and Govopoly in the 39th Day, and its store page, dated March 31, 2026, offered a guide to starting a Trading Tribe, a title on the Govopoly system and a booklet on the Rocks process. The Trading Tribe Process page describes the process as "educational technology to facilitate personal growth" and says it "seems to communicate best in person".

What is not published by any source we could verify: his net worth, a dated record of his returns, and a dated news report on his current status. The birth date and the MIT degrees repeated across the web come from encyclopedia entries that cite no source, and his own site gives no biography, so we do not repeat them. His site was online on November 1, 2026. Other trend followers are covered in our famous traders section, including the Turtle Traders.

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Frequently asked questions

Who is Ed Seykota?

A systematic trend follower interviewed in Market Wizards (1989). Since 2003 he has answered readers on seykota.com, where he also runs the Trading Tribe and a public Trading Systems Project.

What are Ed Seykota's trading rules?

On his own pages: follow a mechanical system, size positions from volatility and a total risk budget (heat), and keep the drawdown below the uncle point of investors and managers. The fixed percentages quoted online were not on the pages we read.

What is Ed Seykota's net worth?

Not published. We found no estimate by a source we could verify, so we do not give one.

How old is Ed Seykota, and did he study at MIT?

We could not confirm either from a primary source. The birth date and the MIT degrees quoted online come from encyclopedia entries without a citation, and seykota.com has no biography page, so we leave both out.

Is Ed Seykota still alive?

We found no dated news source on his status, so we do not state it either way. His website was online on November 1, 2026, and its store page carried the date March 31, 2026.

What books has Ed Seykota written?

His site lists The Trading Tribe and Govopoly in the 39th Day, plus shorter guides sold in its store.

Sources

  1. Jack D. Schwager, Market Wizards (1989), Internet Archive catalog record
  2. Ed Seykota, Risk Management, seykota.com
  3. Ed Seykota, A Simple Trading System: Exponential Average Crossover, seykota.com
  4. Ed Seykota, Trading Systems Project index, seykota.com
  5. Ed Seykota, The Trading Tribe Process, seykota.com
  6. Trading Tribe products page, seykota.com (dated March 31, 2026)
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